Jump to content


Panzer thoughts

  • Please log in to reply
2 replies to this topic


  • Backer
  • 284 posts
  • Joined: 30-October, 2015
  • United States

Right now, the panzer and it's blast shield doesn't seem to be getting used much, even in team modes.


Perhaps the current team game types are not very conducive to defending. You're either scrambling for ore, a miner, or you're playing conquest. MM and Corp War are very gathering-centric. The team who gathers faster wins. This all gets people to favor ships with detection or more mobility, since being able to dodge damage is far more valuable than just taking it.

Conquest has a role for defense, but the capture points are not really in defend-able areas. You pick panzer because you'll last a few seconds longer, not because you can withstand spin-attacks for your team(something that the blast shield still struggles with).


Perhaps its more of a map thing. Would it be a stretch to say that the maps are not 100% ready for some gametypes, gameplay-wise? Allowing a chance for roles to come to life using the map itself? Panzers seemingly shine in more cramped maps, so maybe points of interest should be more cramped in some areas? How about some game modes where each team needs to defend something?


Also, the shield is somewhat cumbersome to use in a fast paced game like this. By the time it's up, a fair amount of damage can be put on you assuming a quarter second of reaction time. Maybe make it so it's a dual mode shield, with an active and passive mode, like so:

  • The passive mode is a small and dim version of the shield always active in front of the panzer. It's just large enough to cover the front when looking directly at an enemy.
  • When activated, it blocks all enemy damage and movement and grows to an oval 4 x 3 ship-lengths for a short period
  • The active costs energy, and disables your passive shield for a short period to cool off

To compensate, the panzers speed can pitch/yaw rate can be reduced. Careless panzers should be easily punished by flying around to it's flank and letting loose

Hopefully that will allow the panzer, with intelligent play, to laugh off damage in a game where movement = life.

  • 1


  • Community ManagerCM
  • 3,007 posts
  • Joined: 07-November, 2014
  • United States

Thanks for the feedback!


It turns out there was actually a bug in the Panzer shield that made it a lot less useful than it was designed. It's fixed internally, so the Panzer should be much more effective in the future. 

  • 0

OG Pyro Jockey

OG Pyro Jockey
  • Backer
  • 75 posts
  • Joined: 10-October, 2015
  • United States

I concur with inspades.  Even if the Panzer's blast shield did block 50% of energy weapon damage, that is NOT enough to make it truly useful.  I like the fact that it costs energy to use; to prevent someone from deploying the shield and just leaving it turned on for the entire match, but in my view, a better implementation would be similar to the shields described in sci-fi movies, on spaceships. 


For example:  When initially deployed, the shield blocks 100% of damage.  With each hit of enemy fire (let's say from quad-four lasers) the shields effectiveness is reduced by 10%.  So after nine (9) direct hits, the shield would only be 10% effective, or. . . the Panzer's energy would be 90% drained requiring the ship to lower its shield and seek out an energy center or power-up for a recharge, something like that.  The latter example would make for an interesting dynamic in Conquest game mode if the capture point was co-located with an energy center within line of sight distance.   Another variation, could be limiting the type of weapons the Panzer can use with the shield up.  Assuming that the shield is an energy field - that blocks energy weapons, why not make it incompatible with those in both directions, limiting the Panzer's weaponry to Vulcan and Flak Cannon only - during shield activation periods.   

  • 0
Formerly known as simply "Pyro" back in the old Descent ][ (Kali) and ]I[ days (1996 through 2005).

If anyone on these forums have seen old Descent ][ or ]I[ players known as Zannox, Swiss (or Swissy), Perin, Malace, MrCottonmouth, Lordcastle, Duma, or Genghis Kahn, please let them know that I am looking for them (Underground Posted Image)

Thanks in advance!

0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users